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		<title>My &#8220;Court of Love&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m a bit uncomfortable with posting this.  I guess it&#8217;s because church discipline is such a forbidden topic.  Ironically, I&#8217;m more uncomfortable discussing my church court experience than I am my sexual experiences.  But given that this is a blog about Mormon sexuality, and that expressions extra-marital sexuality might often lead to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=visitorscenter.wordpress.com&blog=3564010&post=242&subd=visitorscenter&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I&#8217;m a bit uncomfortable with posting this.  I guess it&#8217;s because church discipline is such a forbidden topic.  Ironically, I&#8217;m more uncomfortable discussing my church court experience than I am my sexual experiences.  But given that this is a blog about Mormon sexuality, and that expressions extra-marital sexuality might often lead to church discipline, a discussion of church courts seems warranted.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t summarize my entire experience here, but will just offer some highlights:</p>
<p>1) I was pretty young when I went through a Court and it was both mortifying and intimidating to be faced with a group of older men that I barely knew.  I cried almost the whole time&#8211;probably so much that I was unable to speak clearly.  </p>
<p>2) In addition to crying, I begged the men not to revoke my membership.  I didn&#8217;t want to suffer the embarrassment of excommunication (at the time I was very active in my ward and had a stake-level calling).  My concern at the time was not so much about my eternal salvation, but about the very real possibility that I&#8217;d be humiliated in front of my LDS friends.</p>
<p>3) I didn&#8217;t end up getting ex&#8217;d, but my Bishop told me afterwards that if I ever screwed up again I would be.  He intimated that the church would be closely watching me.  For many years after that I assumed that my church records had some sort of an indication about my court and that every bishop I had knew about it.  To this day, I still don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s true, but I think it&#8217;s not. </p>
<p>4) The church discipline &#8216;worked&#8217; on some level because I was far more careful about my sexual activity afterwards.  But on another level, it really just confirmed to me that I was an awful person. I was so convinced of my sinfulness that I stopped listening to rock music altogether.  I stopped watching anything stronger than a PG movie&#8211;not even PG-13.  I read the scriptures for an hour every night  Anytime anything bad happened to me I knew it was because I <em>deserved</em> bad things to happen to me because of my sinful nature.</p>
<p>5) I dwelt long and hard on the scriptures that talked about fornication being next to murder in seriousness.  There were many times I thought it would be far better for me to be dead&#8211;because at least then I wouldn&#8217;t be tempted to sin again.</p>
<p>6) I&#8217;m not sure if there are gender differences in how men and women are treated in church courts, but I know that for me, my being female probably helped me to get a lighter &#8217;sentence.&#8217;  It probably also helped that I had a good track record in the church and came from a well-regarded LDS family.</p>
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		<title>Naked Mormon Bloggers?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was intending to take a poll here at the VC, to see which of us bloggers you&#8217;d most like to see pose in a calandar centerfold, just like this poll at Playboy.
But given the recent news that missionary calendar hottie Chad Hardy is now facing church discipline for his shirtless pics, I&#8217;m starting to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=visitorscenter.wordpress.com&blog=3564010&post=113&subd=visitorscenter&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I was intending to take a poll here at the VC, to see which of us bloggers you&#8217;d most like to see pose in a calandar centerfold, just like <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/09/one-step-backward-playboy-asks-which-female-blogger-youd-like-to-see-sans-clothing/">this poll at Playboy</a>.</p>
<p>But given the recent news that missionary calendar hottie Chad Hardy<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/07/11/shirtless.mormons.ap/index.html"> is now facing church discipline</a> for his shirtless pics, I&#8217;m starting to reconsider my intention.</p>
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