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	<title>Comments on: Flip a coin, I guess</title>
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	<description>Celebrating Mormon Sexuality</description>
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		<title>By: traumerin</title>
		<link>http://visitorscenter.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/flip-a-coin-i-guess/#comment-1024</link>
		<dc:creator>traumerin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe if almost half of women have &quot;sexual dysfunction,&quot; it&#039;s not dysfunction...it&#039;s just &quot;normal.&quot; Based on past experiences with people, mainly men, who had unrealistic expectations about female sexuality, it wouldn&#039;t surprise me.

This is not to say that no one has &quot;sexual problems&quot; or should be concerned about them, but it does leave me wondering if something is wrong with our entire model of &quot;good and normal&quot; sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe if almost half of women have &#8220;sexual dysfunction,&#8221; it&#8217;s not dysfunction&#8230;it&#8217;s just &#8220;normal.&#8221; Based on past experiences with people, mainly men, who had unrealistic expectations about female sexuality, it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me.</p>
<p>This is not to say that no one has &#8220;sexual problems&#8221; or should be concerned about them, but it does leave me wondering if something is wrong with our entire model of &#8220;good and normal&#8221; sex.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://visitorscenter.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/flip-a-coin-i-guess/#comment-998</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if using the same criteria with men wouldn&#039;t end up with similar results.

I&#039;m also curious about the definition of sub-par sex. Who&#039;s making this judgment? I&#039;m not Mr. Sexually Experienced, but I think we over-romanticize sex in our heads. From a purely physical perspective, there isn&#039;t a whole lot variation for a given person&#039;s physiology. Sex is largely a mental thing--doing exactly the same thing with two different partners with exactly the same physiological results may produce extremely different judgments on quality, for lack of a better way phrasing it.

Could it be that women who report having &quot;sub-par&quot; sex, but who do nothing about it, know deep down inside that they are comparing their experience against the fantasized one or even against past experiences they know were intense for reasons that can&#039;t be repeated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if using the same criteria with men wouldn&#8217;t end up with similar results.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also curious about the definition of sub-par sex. Who&#8217;s making this judgment? I&#8217;m not Mr. Sexually Experienced, but I think we over-romanticize sex in our heads. From a purely physical perspective, there isn&#8217;t a whole lot variation for a given person&#8217;s physiology. Sex is largely a mental thing&#8211;doing exactly the same thing with two different partners with exactly the same physiological results may produce extremely different judgments on quality, for lack of a better way phrasing it.</p>
<p>Could it be that women who report having &#8220;sub-par&#8221; sex, but who do nothing about it, know deep down inside that they are comparing their experience against the fantasized one or even against past experiences they know were intense for reasons that can&#8217;t be repeated.</p>
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		<title>By: MoJo</title>
		<link>http://visitorscenter.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/flip-a-coin-i-guess/#comment-984</link>
		<dc:creator>MoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;women are so hopelessly conditioned to be content with sub-par sex that nobody seems to care that these women don’t enjoy sex.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But how do they know it&#039;s sub-par?  You don&#039;t know what you don&#039;t know, so I&#039;m going to posit that not only are the definitions ineffective and/or insufficient, but that there is no real way to test and refine those definitions.

It&#039;s not like you can put a respondent in a room with a man or woman or device and a guarantee of orgasm to teach them what they&#039;re missing so they can answer the question in a more, uh, scientific? fashion.

Although now I&#039;ve had the idea, I could see how I could probably get a government grant for such a study.  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>women are so hopelessly conditioned to be content with sub-par sex that nobody seems to care that these women don’t enjoy sex.</p></blockquote>
<p>But how do they know it&#8217;s sub-par?  You don&#8217;t know what you don&#8217;t know, so I&#8217;m going to posit that not only are the definitions ineffective and/or insufficient, but that there is no real way to test and refine those definitions.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like you can put a respondent in a room with a man or woman or device and a guarantee of orgasm to teach them what they&#8217;re missing so they can answer the question in a more, uh, scientific? fashion.</p>
<p>Although now I&#8217;ve had the idea, I could see how I could probably get a government grant for such a study.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Starfoxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starfoxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this article too, and it really bothered me because of that disconnect- the idea that 28% (40 minus 12) of women have sexual problems, but aren&#039;t distressed about it indicates a major problem. Either their definition of &#039;sexual problem&#039; is completely divorced from the lived reality of women, or (as you noted) women are so hopelessly conditioned to be content with sub-par sex that nobody seems to care that these women don&#039;t enjoy sex.

I know I&#039;m preaching to the choir here, but it is in men&#039;s best interest for women to actually enjoy sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this article too, and it really bothered me because of that disconnect- the idea that 28% (40 minus 12) of women have sexual problems, but aren&#8217;t distressed about it indicates a major problem. Either their definition of &#8217;sexual problem&#8217; is completely divorced from the lived reality of women, or (as you noted) women are so hopelessly conditioned to be content with sub-par sex that nobody seems to care that these women don&#8217;t enjoy sex.</p>
<p>I know I&#8217;m preaching to the choir here, but it is in men&#8217;s best interest for women to actually enjoy sex.</p>
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