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Posted by Lily on September 8, 2008
This link to a church billboard cracked me up. I’m sure many LDS would agree with the anti-lesbian sentiment expressed by this Pastor. I haven’t heard the song yet–because I live in an iTunes cave–but now I just might download it. Just in case I “like it.”
I’m curious how the rest of you would feel about your teen children or teens you preside over at church exploring same-sex relationships, especially if they are not crossing the chastity line? Does anyone know how Bishops typically react towards same-sex experimentation when it’s just kissing?
Joe said
Heaven help us if kissing will send us to hell. Not only is the hook catchy, but the lyrics speak to me. I can still remember the thrill of cherry chapstick and kissing girls. Of course, I’m a guy. Lily, if you liked that you’ll love this Katy Perry video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWbLkXhGEmo
I think same-sex kissing would get you excommunicated. Just kidding. But I don’t think bishops would treat it lightly, even though it’s not breaking any guidelines.
Tom Sawyer said
Some days I see kooky religious stuff like the billboard you linked to and I just laugh; other days I just get super pissed off.
Today I’m pissed off.
chanson said
If my kids were exploring same-sex relationships, that wouldn’t bother me in the slightest — even if they crossed the chastity line — as long as they were following reasonable safety guidelines. If one of my sons turns out to be gay, I’ll send him to my bro and company to throw him a fabulous debutante ball.
But if they’re both straight, that’s fab too.
Lily said
Even though I’m totally okay with my kids being gay, I find myself all the time voicing heteronormative expectations–stuff like teasing my teen son about the hot girls in his classes, etc. I don’t want my kids to internalize the belief that I expect them to be straight, yet I find it really hard to totally expunge the het perspective from my communications with them. Though I always tell them it’s okay if they like their same sex, I’m not sure that I’ve always showed them that.
Your thoughts?
Tom: What about this makes you so pissed off? I think I’m really on edge about gay issues right now because of Prop 8. Nearly daily I’m being forwarded bigoted anti-gay crap from my friends or my ward on this topic. It’s really alienating and has made me far more angry about this stuff than usual. I can’t tell you how sad I feel to learn of the hundreds of thousands of dollars that my wealthy LDS neighbors are pouring into this campaign. What a horrible horrible waste of money.
Joe said
We’re getting some serious pressure in AZ on a similar proposition. I really work hard to not walk out of the meetings. I’d probably stop going for a while if it weren’t for my wife and kids. My wife can attest that I’ve gotten really worked up over this. I think we’ll look back (or maybe our kids) on this similar to how we look at blacks and the Priesthood and say “What were those old guys thinking?” Or at least I hope so.
Tom Sawyer said
Yes, I’m pissed off about the Prop 8 stuff. The church has gone so far below my already low expectations that I’m in a state of shock. Seriously. I look forward to church on sundays with dread. I know someone close to my wife’s family who donated $125,000. (What makes it hard is that he’s a good guy too! Tough to reconcile.) I personally know many people who have donated in the $5,000 to $20,000 range. I like many of them. But the waste of money for such a hateful cause makes me want to vomit.
But its more than just the Prop 8 stuff, it is conventional, literalistic faith in general. It is Sarah Palin’s unapologetic fundamentalism. It’s the I Kissed A Girl billboard. And a thousand other things…
MoJo said
Why do you feel the need to? You are who you are and you communicate how you communicate. If your children have different from heteronormative leanings, then discuss it when it comes up.